What an exciting club Tottenham is...

[choda]

How exciting is this season becoming?

I mean what a team we have now and the football is majestic again like the start of the year. Hats off to the manager and the chairman.

Harry has taken some flak for his management at times, and deserved it at the time, but he's learned and kept all the things he does fantastically well like transfers (overall), organisation, work ethic and man-management.

Levy has done some things wrong too. He handled the whole Jol sacking badly, though it was the right decision. And being caught talking to another club's manager in a hotel was embarrassing.

However, the financial job he's done has been remarkably good. No debts, profitable and improving the staff and players continually (take a look at the state of the some of the biggest clubs in England, total mess financially). Best finishes in decades, in europe repeatedly. New state of the art stadium in the works to kick us on further. And generally the behaviour of the club is excellent and we demand that of our managers as well.

They've done an amazing job.

To be in this position and with this future is terrific progress. I'm so pleased to be a spurs fan right now. Everything is looking good and we are an example of how football should be played. People pay to watch (in time, money or both) something special too.

I do demand things to be done properly, but I also believe when they are we should not be shy in dishing out the praise. These men really do deserve it.

It's excellent work. :cheers:

[deadleyledley]

good post.

we have excelled greatly since 2004/2005 season. we have repeatedly got into europe even though we didnt want to play in the competition, which ws a shame as we are a club who relish european nights.

the stadium is a huge bonus, and provides evidence that we are making strides to become the best club in europe. we have to start this by getting into the CL and winning the FA cup. there are no doubts that we can do both. we have to apply the knowledge we have gained during this and past seasons to overcome these 2 challenges.

good times:dancing2:

COYS

[olly27]

Yes they all deserve enormous credit for their roles in getting us this far with very stable foundations in place which bodes very well for our future.

Levy deserves credit for getting Harry as well.

But Harry deserves huge credit, the guy has a wealth of experience and his signings are second to none. He knows whats required in this league, a good man manager and has basically assembled an excellent squad.

[Antilokhos]

Well, now we know where choda was during his missing time earlier. Must of had a breakdown and spent some time in a nut hut. Now he's on meds and has a whole new outlook. I wonder how this would work on denis-cro...

[choda]

Well, now we know where choda was during his missing time earlier. Must of had a breakdown and spent some time in a nut hut. Now he's on meds and has a whole new outlook. I wonder how this would work on denis-cro...

Lol. If you consult the older members they will tell you I am a real optimist, always have been. But if I see things wrong I don't stick my head in the sand.

Fact is the turn around is to do with Harry's decisions, they were really going the way of the pear for a while after a great start and we were f*cked cl wise, make no mistake. Now, he is doing really well again and things look great.

I've always been a Levy fan. Man's done a fantastic job here.

You'll notice in the prediction thread I have us down for fourth. My pessimism was based on a great change in managment decisions, which I felt was very much for the worse and would have left us struggling to finish above Everton if it continued. Credit to Harry he learned and has been brilliant again of late.

[Gino Ginelli]

So glad our club is meeting your approval. Stopped complaining after watching all that rubbish scottish football have we? :rolleyes:

[Antilokhos]

Lol. If you consult the older members they will tell you I am a real optimist, always have been. But if I see things wrong I don't stick my head in the sand.

Fact is the turn around is to do with Harry's decisions, they were really going the way of the pear for a while after a great start and we were f*cked cl wise, make no mistake. Now, he is doing really well again and things look great.

I've always been a Levy fan. Man's done a fantastic job here.

You'll notice in the prediction thread I have us down for fourth. My pessimism was based on a great change in managment decisions, which I felt was very much for the worse and would have left us struggling to finish of Everton if it continued. Credit to Harry he learned and has been brilliant again of late.
I agree, Harry did kind of muck things up there for a little while, but he seems to have sorted it out a little bit now Let's hope he did learn from his mistakes and won't revert back to all Defoe + Crouch, all the time when JD is healthy again.

[earl warwick]

Yes they all deserve enormous credit for their roles in getting us this far with very stable foundations in place which bodes very well for our future.

Levy deserves credit for getting Harry as well.

But Harry deserves huge credit, the guy has a wealth of experience and his signings are second to none. He knows whats required in this league, a good man manager and has basically assembled an excellent squad.
Levy really only put right what he'd got wrong, with the debacle of sacking Jol, the appointment of Comolli and the unbalanced squad that followed.

Along with Gross, Jol is one of the few Spurs managers under Levy to have recovered his career. Graham, Santini, Hoddle and Ramos have all fared badly.

[Gino Ginelli]

Not wanting to pick, but Gross was a Sugar appointment...

The first thing Levy did was sack Graham on the brink of an FA Cup Final as it was probably bad for share prices, probably costing us a fair whack at Graham's second cup in as many seasons with us.

It's taken this long, god knows how much time and money for him to finally realise his errors and back the manager properly like this. If Jol had been given this sort of control and backing we would be in the Champions League by now, I firmly believe that.

[earl warwick]

Not wanting to pick, but Gross was a Sugar appointment...

The first thing Levy did was sack Graham on the brink of an FA Cup Final as it was probably bad for share prices, probably costing us a fair whack at Graham's second cup in as many seasons with us.

It's taken this long, god knows how much time and money for him to finally realise his errors and back the manager properly like this. If Jol had been given this sort of control and backing we would be in the Champions League by now, I firmly believe that.
Oops, of course he was. Only Jol then, which means managing Spurs under Levy has been something of a curse to furthering your career.

[choda]

So glad our club is meeting your approval. Stopped complaining after watching all that rubbish scottish football have we? :rolleyes:

Twit, and inflammatory for a 'mod'.

I had my reasons for complaining and stated them. Just because you don't agree with them or understand them doesn't give the right to be try to diminish another fan's love of the club.

This is my club as much as it is yours. In fact, some might say I am more of a spurs fan because I wouldn't put up with long ball. That's so much of what spurs is really about. We never succumb to just being another club, not for long anyway.

I couldn't support anyone other than clubs with good behaviour and good football. The rest of them disgust me to various degrees.

I can only love spurs in England. This is a real club because of its principles.

[hastingsyid]

How exciting is this season becoming?

I mean what a team we have now and the football is majestic again like the start of the year. Hats off to the manager and the chairman.

Harry has taken some flak for his management at times, and deserved it at the time, but he's learned and kept all the things he does fantastically well like transfers (overall), organisation, work ethic and man-management.

Levy has done some things wrong too. He handled the whole Jol sacking badly, though it was the right decision. And being caught talking to another club's manager in a hotel was embarrassing.

However, the financial job he's done has been remarkably good. No debts, profitable and improving the staff and players continually (take a look at the state of the some of the biggest clubs in England, total mess financially). Best finishes in decades, in europe repeatedly. New state of the art stadium in the works to kick us on further. And generally the behaviour of the club is excellent and we demand that of our managers as well.

They've done an amazing job.

To be in this position and with this future is terrific progress. I'm so pleased to be a spurs fan right now. Everything is looking good and we are an example of how football should be played. People pay to watch (in time, money or both) something special too.

I do demand things to be done properly, but I also believe when they are we should not be shy in dishing out the praise. These men really do deserve it.

It's excellent work. :cheers:

good post my old mucker

[Apples]

Twit, and inflammatory for a 'mod'.

I had my reasons for complaining and stated them. Just because you don't agree with them or understand them doesn't give the right to be try to diminish another fan's love of the club.

This is my club as much as it is yours. In fact, some might say I am more of a spurs fan because I wouldn't put up with long ball. That's so much of what spurs is really about. We never succumb to just being another club, not for long anyway.

I couldn't support anyone other than clubs with good behaviour and good football. The rest of them disgust me to various degrees.

I can only love spurs in England. This is a real club because of its principles.


One quick question if the game was Spurs vs Ireland who would you support?

[choda]

One quick question if the game was Spurs vs Ireland who would you support?

That would be a very uncomfortable set of events for me. I wouldn't watch it. It's hypothetical anyway, so what is your point?

[Ginola's Son]

The football we have played this season is exemplary, although I don't like the policy we adopt when Crouch is on the pitch and we lump the ball to him, our football is best played on the floor, lovely slick passing.

What I love about the current squad is the much vaunted 'strength in depth' we have. The fact what we can lose the likes of Lennon, King, Woodgate, Huddlestone and Defoe and still string 5 or 6 straight wins is a testament to that. We have two or three quality players in each position. Keeper Gomes has rightfully become a cult hero, Bale, Bentley and Pav has reserrected their seemingly battered Spurs careers and we've not looked hungrier for success since the old days of Gazza and Lineker and that includes the Jol era.

[Apples]

That would be a very uncomfortable set of events for me. I wouldn't watch it. It's hypothetical anyway, so what is your point?

Its a mute point but I know I'd support spurs if vs england.

However, not sure if I'd prefer England to win world cup or spurs the league...what would u prefer

[Apples]

The football we have played this season is exemplary, although I don't like the policy we adopt when Crouch is on the pitch and we lump the ball to him, our football is best played on the floor, lovely slick passing.

What I love about the current squad is the much vaunted 'strength in depth' we have. The fact what we can lose the likes of Lennon, King, Woodgate, Huddlestone and Defoe and still string 5 or 6 straight wins is a testament to that. We have two or three quality players in each position. Keeper Gomes has rightfully become a cult hero, Bale, Bentley and Pav has reserrected their seemingly battered Spurs careers and we've not looked hungrier for success since the old days of Gazza and Lineker and that includes the Jol era.

Good post Its good times

[Gino Ginelli]

Good post Its good times

Not any more... :banghead:

[Ginola's Son]

Lol, this thread is now redundant

we are a tragic lot

[Gino Ginelli]

Ha ha, it is rather. After Ross County and now Pompey, Choda must be proper sick. Let's hope for his sake Keane goes to a top four club next like Liverp... oh now, hang on...

[choda]

Ha ha, it is rather. After Ross County and now Pompey, Choda must be proper sick. Let's hope for his sake Keane goes to a top four club next like Liverp... oh now, hang on...

It bares repeating: Twit and inflammatory for a mod.

I don't knee jerk, unlike yourself.

We failed because we picked the wrong team. Aside from their performance and the ref if we picked the right team we'd have won anyway. It is far too early to be talking about the progress being gone.

How dumb is that? We are still fifth in the league and harry can learn from his mistakes. He's still done so much right. And Levy has still set great foundations and built up every area of the club hugely.

Keane has little to do with Tottenham anymore and probably will be sold by the looks of what Harry says about it. So he will have nothing to do with me other than the national team, pretty much as it is now because I only watch Celtic in the cl last few years and even then only when it is a massive game.

But you are just being petty with that comment anyway.

[Ginola's Son]

We are still fifth in the league and harry can learn from his mistakes.

He's too old a cat to learn anything

He'll keep carrying on playing Crouch and as a consequence we'll probably finish 6th or 7th.

[earl warwick]

He's too old a cat to learn anything

He'll keep carrying on playing Crouch and as a consequence we'll probably finish 6th or 7th.
We've got where we are partly by playing Crouch. One of only 2 sides to have won at Blackburn, where United followed Chelsea at the weekend by drawing. I won't need to tell you who scored our 2 goals in that win.

[olly27]

We've got where we are partly by playing Crouch. One of only 2 sides to have won at Blackburn, where United followed Chelsea at the weekend by drawing. I won't need to tell you who scored our 2 goals in that win.

Abso****inglutely... a point many on here tend to ignore. Not to mention Stoke, we wouldn't have had 3 points that day either. From what I remember he was pretty useful in the 3-0 win over City, Birmingham and Fulham at home as well.

Infact Crouch has defenitely played his part in where we are today and to suggest otherwise is totally misguided. Its a squad game and there are plenty of conditions in when playing Crouch is perfectly justified.

[choda]

Abso****inglutely... a point many on here tend to ignore. Not to mention Stoke, we wouldn't have had 3 points that day either. From what I remember he was pretty useful in the 3-0 win over City, Birmingham and Fulham at home as well.

Infact Crouch has defenitely played his part in where we are today and to suggest otherwise is totally misguided. Its a squad game and there are plenty of conditions in when playing Crouch is perfectly justified.

Horses for courses. I've always said Crouch is a good impact sub and very useful for certain games in this league. But it also has to be recognised that Crouch and Defoe together as a pair will seriously damage you in most games and if it is preferred over a stretch of games.

I don't want to sell Crouch, I just want it accurately recognised what standard he is and what he brings in positives bit also in negatives. Harry licks his balls WAY too much and that does cause us problems and has costed us at lot of points.

[Ginola's Son]

We've got where we are partly by playing Crouch. One of only 2 sides to have won at Blackburn, where United followed Chelsea at the weekend by drawing. I won't need to tell you who scored our 2 goals in that win.

One or two decent performances highlighted and not the times where he's been anonymous. That just about sums it up. You'll argue for the sake of it.

[earl warwick]

One or two decent performances highlighted and not the times where he's been anonymous. That just about sums it up. You'll argue for the sake of it.

You surely don't want me to list every game where he's proved his worth?

I was one of his biggest critics - a very freakish looking player, easily knocked off the ball, no heading power, often leaning on the backs of players for headers, no pace, no shooting power.

What he does have is a very unselfish and committed attitude, a bright personality(although not relevant to football), intelligence, a skilled touch, sharp placement of headers and an ability to play a pass.

[olly27]

You surely don't want me to list every game where he's proved his worth?

I was one of his biggest critics - a very freakish looking player, easily knocked off the ball, no heading power, often leaning on the backs of players for headers, no pace, no shooting power.

What he does have is a very unselfish and committed attitude, a bright personality(although not relevant to football), intelligence, a skilled touch, sharp placement of headers and an ability to play a pass.

Indeed. Once when asked what he thought he would of been if he wasn't a professional footballer his response was...'probably a virgin'..lol. Quality from the big man.

[Gino Ginelli]

It bares repeating: Twit and inflammatory for a mod.

It's true though isn't it... you fvcked off when we sold Keane to Liverpool, and then you fvcked off when he went to Celtic. Funny how one week after everyone plus the man himself confirmed he was returning, then we win the Fulham game, you pipe up with this thread. "Oh I say chaps, what a spiffing club our old Tootenham Hottenspurs are" like some football bore in a pub with everyone thinking "c*nt."

When Robbie goes to Wolves in the summer you'll be gone then too. Spurs fan my arse...

[choda]

It's true though isn't it... you fvcked off when we sold Keane to Liverpool, and then you fvcked off when he went to Celtic. Funny how one week after everyone plus the man himself confirmed he was returning, then we win the Fulham game, you pipe up with this thread. "Oh I say chaps, what a spiffing club our old Tootenham Hottenspurs are" like some football bore in a pub with everyone thinking "c*nt."

When Robbie goes to Wolves in the summer you'll be gone then too. Spurs fan my arse...

And I came back, you tw*t.

You really are so incredibly thick. Keane is finished at spurs, as things stand, everyone knows that. And your argument about me not being a spurs fan is like many of the other arguments you present, totally f*cking arseways and non-sensical whether right or wrong (in this case completely wrong as well). I was fan long before Robbie came to spurs and will be long after.

Any points I've made about Robbie are to do with technical and tactical issues, so don't be such a cumstain all your life.

[Gino Ginelli]

We'll see sugarlips, we'll see...

[earl warwick]

It's true though isn't it... you fvcked off when we sold Keane to Liverpool, and then you fvcked off when he went to Celtic. Funny how one week after everyone plus the man himself confirmed he was returning, then we win the Fulham game, you pipe up with this thread. "Oh I say chaps, what a spiffing club our old Tootenham Hottenspurs are" like some football bore in a pub with everyone thinking "c*nt."

When Robbie goes to Wolves in the summer you'll be gone then too. Spurs fan my arse...
Are you Jrio in disguise? :biggrin:

[olly27]

Are you Jrio in disguise? :biggrin:

lol....I miss Jrio...:date:

[Gino Ginelli]

lol....I miss Jrio...:date:
And yet like when they get a new actor to play the same character in a TV series, a change of guise can sometimes be refreshing... :laugh:

[olly27]

And yet like when they get a new actor to play the same character in a TV series, a change of guise can sometimes be refreshing... :laugh:

Yup- its lovely when the transition is as smooth as a baby's bum! :santaclaus:

[Rojoknapp]

lol....I miss Jrio...:date:

I don't :glare:

[Gino Ginelli]

I don't :glare:

Aww... he loved you! :knuddel:

[TURKISH]

It bares repeating: Twit and inflammatory for a mod.

I don't knee jerk, unlike yourself.

We failed because we picked the wrong team. Aside from their performance and the ref if we picked the right team we'd have won anyway. It is far too early to be talking about the progress being gone.

How dumb is that? We are still fifth in the league and harry can learn from his mistakes. He's still done so much right. And Levy has still set great foundations and built up every area of the club hugely.

Keane has little to do with Tottenham anymore and probably will be sold by the looks of what Harry says about it. So he will have nothing to do with me other than the national team, pretty much as it is now because I only watch Celtic in the cl last few years and even then only when it is a massive game.

But you are just being petty with that comment anyway.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2q3svhh.jpg

[Gino Ginelli]

Fvcking class!

[Apples]

I think Crouch should be dropped.

Although he is very effective for us - the the players we have around him do not seem to be able to utilise his strengths.

If you had an attacking midfielder say a Lampard who can run on to a ball and shoot be great!

If Modric could shoot he would probably have a bundle.

Due to the fact that we don't have that kind of midfielder we need two strikers that are intelligent. Choda is incorrect when he says Defoe is not intelligent because he makes some excellent runs, and thats why I would play either Defoe and Gudjonnson or Defoe and Pav

[deadleyledley]

You surely don't want me to list every game where he's proved his worth?

I was one of his biggest critics - a very freakish looking player, easily knocked off the ball, no heading power, often leaning on the backs of players for headers, no pace, no shooting power.

What he does have is a very unselfish and committed attitude, a bright personality(although not relevant to football), intelligence, a skilled touch, sharp placement of headers and an ability to play a pass.

i am pro crouch, but his placement of headers in the pompey was very poor. he had 2 oppurtunities where he could have put it either side of james but ended up putting it straight down his throat.

generally though he is good at nodding them in. i dont think however that he is the type that can power a header in from 9/10 yards.

[deadleyledley]

I think Crouch should be dropped.

Although he is very effective for us - the the players we have around him do not seem to be able to utilise his strengths.

If you had an attacking midfielder say a Lampard who can run on to a ball and shoot be great!

If Modric could shoot he would probably have a bundle.

Due to the fact that we don't have that kind of midfielder we need two strikers that are intelligent. Choda is incorrect when he says Defoe is not intelligent because he makes some excellent runs, and thats why I would play either Defoe and Gudjonnson or Defoe and Pav

personally i think that defoe and crouch is a good pairing. they understand each other. however the type of football differs and doesnt quite fit in with the rest of the team.

[choda]

I think Crouch should be dropped.

Although he is very effective for us - the the players we have around him do not seem to be able to utilise his strengths.

If you had an attacking midfielder say a Lampard who can run on to a ball and shoot be great!

If Modric could shoot he would probably have a bundle.

Due to the fact that we don't have that kind of midfielder we need two strikers that are intelligent. Choda is incorrect when he says Defoe is not intelligent because he makes some excellent runs, and thats why I would play either Defoe and Gudjonnson or Defoe and Pav

I have said all year I want Defoe to play. What I said was Defoe's movement has improved bundles this year, but he's not very intelligent at hold up play and linking up, bringing people in.

He's still excellent at what he does, movement and finishing. This is enough of a contribution and my inclination would be to pick him for his movement, agility and shot.

My point has always been, that you can't play him WITH Crouch because then you have no one that is good at bringing the play together so you both have real class attacking play and hold onto the ball.

And I advocated Keane earlier in the year even in poor form because last year Pav was so lazy/tired his hold up was really poor. For those reasons just having Kaene on the pitch made us play better. Now since Pav has been reborn, his hold up is good because he is 'at it' and this has been essential to getting us on track again.

[Apples]

I have said all year I want Defoe to play. What I said was Defoe's movement has improved bundles this year, but he's not very intelligent at hold up play and linking up, bringing people in.

He's still excellent at what he does, movement and finishing. This is enough of a contribution and my inclination would be to pick him for his movement, agility and shot.

My point has always been, that you can't play him WITH Crouch because then you have no one that is good at bringing the play together so you both have real class attacking play and hold onto the ball.

And I advocated Keane earlier in the year even in poor form because last year Pav was so lazy/tired his hold up was really poor. For those reasons just having Kaene on the pitch made us play better. Now since Pav has been reborn, his hold up is good because he is 'at it' and this has been essential to getting us on track again.

Yeah i know we're in agreement except for last night lovely bit of hold up play and visionary passing by Defoe to set up Bales goal

[choda]

Yeah i know we're in agreement except for last night lovely bit of hold up play and visionary passing by Defoe to set up Bales goal

I know, he does have moments, that was a really top pass.