The need for a striker

[Spur]

Over the past couple of weeks we have all had a say, in whether perhaps JD should go, whether to keep hold of Mido, and another striker we could sign.

Also over the past weeks, and months for that matter, we have continually been linked we strikers from across England and the rest of Europe. These include the possible acquisition of young strikers, one of which for a 17-year-old is tied up already, and more experienced players. The one thing they have in common, they seem to be target men.

Tonght is Charlton vs Boro, and watching three of the players involved over the season, they are all worhty candidates for a mention I feel. Darren Bent we all know about and he has been linked as soon as yesterday, but my argument against him is he could be a 'one-season wonder'. The other two have not been linked. Jimmy Floyd-Hasselbaink and Mark Viduka.

A few seasons ago Jimmy was, in my opinion, a great player. I still think Chelsea did the wrong thing in letting him go. For Jimmy's case, he is out of contract at the end of the season, meaning he is FREE, thus we could replace Mido, who I feel we could get better than, for FREE. His wages may be a bit, and we may face other opposition for his signiture, but seeing as he is FREE, they would pay for themselves right?

For Mark Viduka, this season we have seen some exceptional skill from the big man. He is 6 foot 2, and over 14 stone, I just heard Jonathon Pearce say-so, and he has immense skill with the feet, and he can crack a shot off too, just like Jimmy. I'm not sure how long is left to run on Viduka's contract, so he may cost a bit.

Both players have necessary experience in abundance. But picture this. We let Mido go, his post ANC performances have been rather uninspired. We get in one of the two, Jimmy it would be for me, as he is also FREE. Then we splash out on one striker, who can also be put forward by you guys, or we can let the rumour mill keep ticking over.

I think both are great players. Sorry for the essay, just wanted to get my point across that there are players out there as good as, or better than Mido, right on our doorstep, for alot less than it would seem we are going to have to pay for Mido.

[JJ]

Both of those guys are reaching the tail end of their careers. Mido is young, and has his whole career ahead of him. Buying quick fixes is useless, we need a plan for the future.

[Jol's Yid Army]

I agree with you SPUR in regards to Viduka. I was at the Spurs V Boro at the start of the season and when Viduka came off the bench he caused the defence all kinds of trouble. He is very skillful, strong and is very good when holding up the ball. I read in the paper (true or not) that Viduka is unhappy at Boro so I dont think he would cost to much.

[JJ]

Viduka is soon to be 30 and Jimmy is 34. Mido is 23....

I don't want to buy players who have absolutely no future.

[Spur]

Davids was 33 when we bought him.

He has gone through the season as arguably our most important player. When the team started out and he was missing - we lost - simple as.

I stated that both have experience. Over the last few weeks everyone has mentioned experience, including Martin Jol.

[JJ]

Davids was 33 when we bought him.

He has gone through the season as arguably our most important player. When the team started out and he was missing - we lost - simple as.

I stated that both have experience. Over the last few weeks everyone has mentioned experience, including Martin Jol.

Yeah but come on, theres a massive difference between Edgar Davids and the average 33 year old. The man is a legend. He's won it all.

Christ, he wears sunglasses on the pitch.

Viduka and Jimmy will never be on Edgar's level.

[Spur]

That's fine you can't argue with that, but the potential impact could be the same. The need for experience has grown, especially if reports suggesting Davids leaving are true. Look at West Ham and Teddy. They have just come up and are on the verge of Europe through the league and an FA Cup final appearance. We need someone who can start the odd game and can come on a win in situations where players might not know/be comfortable with.

With everyone banging on about experience, these two are both excellent for it IMO.

[JJ]

That's fine you can't argue with that, but the potential impact could be the same. The need for experience has grown, especially if reports suggesting Davids leaving are true. Look at West Ham and Teddy. They have just come up and are on the verge of Europe through the league and an FA Cup final appearance. We need someone who can start the odd game and can come on a win in situations where players might not know/be comfortable with.

With everyone banging on about experience, these two are both excellent for it IMO.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, i'm all for padding the squad with proven talent. But both of those guys will be expecting first team football, and to be fair i think we could quite easily find better.

[Keanoldinho]

They're both past it I would rather have Mido and Hasselbaink is shorter than Defoe. I want to see how good this Pekhart kid is, maybe he could be 4th choice and we could bring in a big name quality player to rotate with Keano & Defoe(if he stays).

[SharX]

Both of those guys are reaching the tail end of their careers. Mido is young, and has his whole career ahead of him. Buying quick fixes is useless, we need a plan for the future.
agreed. and i think thats Jol's startegy, and i respect it. he is trying to assemble a team of young players. thats why he signed JJ, Mido, Ghaly, etc. Davids was only required to give the young squad more confidence, since it was evidently clear in the midfield last season.

[Danishspurs]

If we were to buy a striker fron Boro it must be Yakubu... He's still young, big and scoring a lot of goals....

[MStore]

whilst those guys are doing to the do at Boro I wouldn't want them in a spurs shirt.

According to the sun the arse have snatched Torres from under our noses..

[JuicE]

We were linked with Viduka 6 years ago and the news came through that he signed for Spurs. i think they tried. He is too sporadic in his form.:mad:

[dommo]

I wouldn't say no to Viduka or Yakubu. Both are strong and can comfortably play as lone striker which none of our current strikers can. This option could be vital next season in Europe. Ok Viduka can be very very lazy ( like Mido away from the Lane ) but when in the mood he can be awesome.

[TomMcLaren]

Definate no! screw that, we can do better than over the hill has beens (who are still scoring on a regular basis in the Prem and Europe - doh!) although Yakubu is a great talent...

[dommo]

Definate no! screw that, we can do better than over the hill has beens (who are still scoring on a regular basis in the Prem and Europe - doh!) although Yakubu is a great talent...



like who ???

[TomMcLaren]

Who can we do better with? Sign Mido on a permenant contract is a start, plus I would take any of the strikers we are consistently linked with (Torres/Kuyt/Berbatov/Lualua etc) over Hasslebank or Viduka.

[Houdini logic]

Lua Lua has got great pace and a hate for the scum, but is he the kind of player we need? I think not.

I really wanna see Berbatov in the premier league this season, I think he's a fantastic player.

[MStore]

Lua Lua has got great pace and a hate for the scum, but is he the kind of player we need? I think not.

he had a great game last night then twisted his ankle doing his treble back somersault and had to be taken off - ****!

[Houdini logic]

Don't forget the pike! That's what actually ****ed his ankle!

[MStore]

Don't forget the pike! That's what actually ****ed his ankle!

nasty ankle biting fish, those pikes..

[JuicE]

Looks like Torres will be a Scummer next season! :o

[MStore]

let's wait and see. I reckon it's his agent stoking things up, so by saying he's definately going to be a scummer actually means he'll be playing for spurs but we'll have a pay more

[highlander]

Torres is being hailed as the best striking talent in europe but has scored 12 in 31 games in la liga wgicg is fairly average considering the less than impressive defences in spain. im not denying hes going to be a very good player but maybe not £15million worth of talent. yes id like to sign him but i think we have the fortune of a lot of choices this summer, id rather sign Berbatov, he looks stronger and seems like he's a better all-rounder

[JuicE]

Torres is being hailed as the best striking talent in europe but has scored 12 in 31 games in la liga wgicg is fairly average considering the less than impressive defences in spain. im not denying hes going to be a very good player but maybe not £15million worth of talent. yes id like to sign him but i think we have the fortune of a lot of choices this summer, id rather sign Berbatov, he looks stronger and seems like he's a better all-rounder
Yeah! i reckon he's a bit overrated but i would hate to see Arsene get the best out of him.

[Spur]

My point about perhaps acquiring either Jimmy or Viduka is that they would both be cheap, Jimmy being free. I'm all for buying the world class strikers believe me I am, i've said before that I would walk to the Lane to get Torres printed on the shirt, and I would, if it'd help i'd f*cking crawl. But all these strikers are 10mil+++, even Yakubu, who is an undoubted talent and best striker at Riverside, would be well over 10mil.

With Mido's deal in turmoil I think a bringing in a player on a free, like Hasselbaink, or even better Pippo Inzaghi, someone like that, who may be over the hill and past his best but can still do a job, bringing someone like that in would pave the way for a star signing. People forget we need two strikers. Mido is no.1, but like I say that could be up in the air, so the contingency would be someone like those stated.

[seraphin]

Torres is being hailed as the best striking talent in europe but has scored 12 in 31 games in la liga wgicg is fairly average considering the less than impressive defences in spain. im not denying hes going to be a very good player but maybe not £15million worth of talent. yes id like to sign him but i think we have the fortune of a lot of choices this summer, id rather sign Berbatov, he looks stronger and seems like he's a better all-rounder
Arsenal may have the readies to buy Torres after Henry departs spurs should up the ante making Torres an expensive buy for the scum.
Personally i dont think we should spend 15mil on one player just yet

[DarlinginJapan]

Torres is playing in a fairly poor team and has tons of potential. Basically if we signed Kuyt, Torres or Berbatov I'd be chuffed!

Dirk Kuyt, Stewart Downing and Wayne Bridge would be delightful!

[Houdini logic]

Agreed, Torres' agent is heating things up, indicating that it might go down to who gets forth place...

[TomMcLaren]

Did anyone actually see this story in the Sun? Only half of the story was actually about Torres, with the second half being about the Villareal game. The first half included a description of Torres and a quote from Reyes saying that he's a great player and he'd be really happy if he signed for Arsenal. Basically it was a complete load of shit.

[TomMcLaren]

Lua Lua has got great pace and a hate for the scum, but is he the kind of player we need? I think not.

I'd take Lualua - he's big, strong, loads of pace and the same kind of inventiveness that Freddi had, wouldn't mind seeing him score for us at the Lane...

[fluke]

I'd take Lualua - he's big, strong, loads of pace and the same kind of inventiveness that Freddi had, wouldn't mind seeing him score for us at the Lane...

I think Lualua is a good player. However if we can offer Champions League football next season we can attract players of a higher calibre, who have had some european experience.

[Keanoldinho]

Lets go for Rooney or Adriano because they're both young with alot of potential.

[shoot_ffs]

i wouldn't say lua lua is big, but he is a talent and gets his share of goals. I see him in much the same mould as defoe, perhaps a bit stronger on the ball. The only advantage would be few inches more in height, and any profit we could make out of selling defoe and keeping lua lua. I think with a pacey left winger there wouldn't always be a need for a big striker and you could happily play keane and defoe together.

Apart from the mido problem, i think the height of our team could prove our failing. With enough midfielders to fill two teams, we're unlikely to want/need any more. Which means the height has to come from defence or attack. I notice the scum are touted to buy the big 6ft 10" serbian striker zigic. I wouldn't have thought he would fit their style of play, but give wenger his due for nabbing a top threat. He has a team of giants over there. I think one of the reasons jol took lennon off and brought on defoe towards the end of a game recently is we'd never defend a corner with both of them on. Same goes for routy probably.

[TomMcLaren]

Lets go for Rooney or Adriano because they're both young with alot of potential.

"thanks for your input" :D

[Keanoldinho]

"thanks for your input" :D

Anytime mate, I'm like a football encyclopedia:D